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Elissa
Killeen, TX, United States
2012-03-10 08:03:39
Classified Ads Scam
Paypal (paypal.com)
+4 David Gray / davidgray@contactgray.com
 Scammer
  Information
Name:
   David.gray@contactgray.com
Telephone:
   5053026857
\"David Gray Jr.\" contacted me two days after I listed my vehicle for sale and offered more than asking price. Here are the emails he sent...


Hello Elissa,

             Thanks for getting back to me on here. I will take it for $12,000 including PayPal surcharges since I am interested in the immediate purchase.

I can only make the payment via paypal because it\'s very safe and secure for both of us. In case you don\'t have a paypal account I\'ll advice you to register for one at www.paypal.com. I have a private pick-up agent that will contact you in-order to handle the pick-up at any location of your choice to New Zealand once the payment is completed. I would have loved the agent to handle the payment with cash but he doesn\'t make payment on behalf customers.

I\'ll like you to tell me more about the present mechanical condition, how often do you service it, mechanical history, have you ever experience any mechanical problem with it before?

Your quick response is greatly appreciated.

Best Regards,
David



Hi again,

Thanks for the info. I\'m very much interested and I want you to know that you don\'t have to surf around looking for buyers because you just found one. This is a gift for my Dad and it must be presented in few Weeks from now. I hope you understand my eagerness to complete this transaction a.s.a.p...? What\'s your Paypal email and Name to send funds to in order for me to pay you ASAP?

Immediately the payment is completed and transferred into your account, the agent will contact you in-order to handle the pickup from your location and he will also be of assistance concerning the change of ownership by presenting all the information\'s/documents needed to complete the change of ownership. This transaction is based on HUGE amount of trust and I expect to see this from your end as it is on mine.

I will prefer to keep it as email to email conversation so that we can both have evidence of our conversation during this transaction but I will like to speak to you over the phone when the pick up is about to take place.


A later email from \"david gray\"...

I will prefer to keep it as email to email conversation so that we can both have evidence of our conversation during this transaction but I will like to speak to you over the phone when the pick up is about to take place.

Follow Ups/Extra Information. Most recent is listed first.
Don Elliott   (Fort Huachuaca, AZ, United States) Added the following extra information on :2012-08-21 15:01:54
 Scammer
  Information
Name:
   David Gray
Email Address:
   gray11213@gmail.com
Ole David is at it again, after placing an add online to sell my car he swooped in like a hawk with his scam line. This is what he sent me! Notice he changed his email address:
From: David Gray [mailto:gray11213@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:52 PM
Hi again,
I am interested in the immediate purchase. I will take it for the price you've mentioned and I will gladly cover PayPal charges from my end.
I can only make the payment via paypal because it's very safe and secure for both of us. In case you don't have a paypal account I'll advice you to register for one at www.paypal.com. I have a private pick-up agent that will contact you in-order to handle the pick-up at any location of your choice once the payment is completed.
Question: I'll like you to tell me more about the present mechanical condition, how often do you service it, mechanical history, have you ever experience any mechanical problem with it before and why are you selling it?
Look forward to reading from you at your earliest convinience.
Best Regards, David

J   (Edison, NJ, United States) Added the following extra information on :2012-05-09 16:50:40
 Scammer
  Information
Name:
   David Gray
Email Address:
   graphics@contactgray.com
I also got an email from this person after listing my car for sale. Same exact text message as listed in this thread. I googled his name and found this forum.
Thanks Scamdex - saved me some time in dealing with another scumbag. J

No Name   (Murrieta, CA, United States) Added the following extra information on :2012-04-03 19:35:00
 Scammer
  Information
Name:
   David Gray
Yes.
>Continuing on, will you confirm that you're paying shipping/freight costs? And also, you will send payment over through paypal, and once the transaction is cleared and deposited, you or an agent will arrange for immediate pickup of the car/ownership documents.
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 00:00:33 +0200
From: davidgray@contactgray.com
This is my linkedin id http://au.linkedin.com/pub/david-gray/37/749/5b4
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:00 AM, David Gray Jr. wrote: I understand your fears. I'm also skeptical of dealing in this form because am scared of getting scammed but due to my present location, this is the only available way for me to get this done.
>I understand, I am just wary of being scammed so I had to be sure. I went to the freight website and didn't get much information about pickup and pickup location.
----- Reply message ----- From: "David Gray Jr."
I will prefer to keep it as email to email conversation so that we can both have evidence of our conversation during this transaction but I will like to speak to you over the phone when the pick up is about to take place.
>Hey David, is there any way you can contact me via phone call to just make sure everything is legit?
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 22:29:43 +0200
The agent and the freight company are based in England and but they operate in so many countries in which United states is one of them. They will connect with their source in PA to handle the pick-up once the payment is completed. Here is their website www.alloyfreight.com.
>David,
I completely understand how much this transaction is based on trust, because I would have to get the money from you and then immediately turn over my documents and car as soon as I can confirm that the amount is paid in full and deposited into my bank account. We can go ahead and proceed with the transaction as this point. Also, I would just like to confirm that you would be paying for the freight and charges to have the car shipped.. Lastly, will this agent be coming directly to the address I provide, or to a different location here in California?
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:43:14 +0200
The agent and the freight company are based in England and but they operate in so many countries in which United states is one of them. They will connect with their source in PA to handle the pick-up once the payment is completed. Here is their website www.alloyfreight.com. This is a gift for my Dad and it must be presented in few Weeks from now. I hope you understand my eagerness to complete this transaction a.s.a.p...?
Immediately the payment is completed and transferred into your account, the agent will contact you in-order to handle the pickup from your location and he will also be of assistance concerning the change of ownership by presenting all the information's/documents needed to complete the change of ownership. This transaction is based on HUGE amount of trust and I expect to see this from your end as it is on mine.
>Before we conclude with the payment I have a few questions to ask. First off, tell me more about how this pick-up is going to work. I'm sure you noticed that I am currently located in Murrieta, California, and I would like to know a little more about where you would like to me to drop it off to be shipped?
I just had it serviced last week so it has fresh oil and fluids in it. It is served every 4,000 miles. The transmission was serviced within the year and there are no problems to report. I have never had any transmission/engine problems, or break downs since I've had it. Also no accidents to report. There are a few scratches on the exterior and a minor crack on the windshield, but I can have that taken care of if you desire before shipment..
Hello
Thanks for getting back to me on here. I will take it for $5,200 including PayPal surcharges since I am interested in the immediate purchase.
I can only make the payment via paypal because it's very safe and secure for both of us. In case you don't have a paypal account I'll advice you to register for one at www.paypal.com. I have a private pick-up agent that will contact you in-order to handle the pick-up at any location of your choice to New Zealand once the payment is completed. I would have loved the agent to handle the payment with cash but he doesn't make payment on behalf customers.
I'll like you to tell me more about the present mechanical condition, how often do you service it, mechanical history, have you ever experience any mechanical problem with it before?
Your quick response is greatly appreciated.
Best Regards, David
>No problem! The price it's listed at is $4,500 usd.
Thanks for your swift response. Can you please confirm the amount you'll like to sell it so that we can proceed with the transaction?
>Hello David Gray,
Currently my car is still available and price is still the same.
Let me know if you have any questions!
Thanks

D. Russell   (US) Added the following extra information on :2012-03-15 22:40:22
 Scammer
  Information
Name:
   David Gray Junior
Email Address:
   davidgray@contactgray.com
He contacted me threes days after i posted my car for sale. he offered me above posted value. He first contacted me by phone:
<-Hi, am interested in your vehicle. Pls confirm price/availability to my email address: davidgray@contactgray.com. pls no sms bcos i won't b able to read it.- I replied via email, with:
>-Yes the car is still for sale, price is firm at $3000. trades may be considered- he replied with:
<-Hello Daniel, Thanks for getting back to me on here. I will take it for $3700 including PayPal surcharges since I am interested in the immediate purchase. I can only make the payment via paypal because it's very safe and secure for both of us. In case you don't have a paypal account I'll advice you to register for one at www.paypal.com. I have a private pick-up agent that will contact you in-order to handle the pick-up at any location of your choice to New Zealand once the payment is completed. I would have loved the agent to handle the payment with cash but he doesn't make payment on behalf customers. I'll like you to tell me more about the present mechanical condition, how often do you service it, mechanical history, have you ever experience any mechanical problem with it before?Your quick response is greatly appreciated. Best Regards, David-
>-I apologize however, I do not have a pay-pal account, nor do i have the ability to acquire one . So, if you want to purchase this vehicle payment will have to be in the form of cash or a money order, no exceptions..-
<-Am sorry but I can only make the payment through paypal for security purposes.-
>-I have access to a pay pal account.
<-Hi again, Thanks for the info. I'm very much interested and I want you to know that you don't have to surf around looking for buyers because you just found one. This is a gift for my Dad and it must be presented in few Weeks from now. I hope you understand my eagerness to complete this transaction a.s.a.p...? What's your Paypal email and Name to send funds to in order for me to pay you ASAP? Immediately the payment is completed and transferred into your account, the agent will contact you in-order to handle the pickup from your location and he will also be of assistance concerning the change of ownership by presenting all the information's/documents needed to complete the change of ownership. This transaction is based on HUGE amount of trust and I expect to see this from your end as it is on mine. I will prefer to keep it as email to email conversation so that we can both have evidence of our conversation during this transaction but I will like to speak to you over the phone when the pick up is about to take place.-
>-You have been reported as past scam artist, and i have filed a consumer fraud report myself. do not contact me again,-
I sent him that last email after i found reports of his email being used to scam people with.

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