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Anonymous
Darling Point, New South Wales, Australia
2015-07-06 22:15:27
Classified Ads Scam
Gumtree
+1 Selling a caravan on Gumtree
 Scammer
  Information
Name:
   Silvan Meier/Silvan Meier
Email Address:
   Silvan Meier
This scam continued over 24 hours ... the timeframe on each email jumps back for forwards... you don't notice this at first... BUT because everything became so confusing I started to get anxious and what a relief to find Scamdex.
I haven't heard from "Silvan" since I found his history on scamdex... but the following is how far the transaction proceeded :
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 11.21 AM, Silvan Meier wrote:
Yes you are to send the $950 to the address given to you via western union money transfer and get back to pay pal so they could be able to credit the whole $5,550 into your account in the next minutes and then we can schedule for the pick up as soon as the money is credited into your account

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 2:14 AM, seller wrote:
I AM NOW TOTALLY CONFUSED. l have never done this sort of transaction before, so i need your patience... sorry. Is this correct ... I have sent Paypal the following information :
Last Name: Li
Address:10 ding fu jia yuan
City: Beijing
State: Beijing
Zip Code: 100024
Country: China

On 07/07/2015, at 10:47 AM, Silvan Meier wrote:
Please kindly get back to me as soon as you can so we can schedule for the pick up with my courier agent as soon as the money is credited into your account

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 1:21 AM, Silvan Meier wrote:
I have just completed the payment and i expected paypal to have notified you to this effect.check your mail folders either your (inbox,spam or junk) i sent $5550 in all.i added $1050 but $950 will be sent to my agent in CHINA through western union at post office,the extra $100 is to cover the western union fee.Paypal said they will not release the fund until you email them the western union detail for verification,and also to enable my pick up agent to come for pick up and inspection.Here is the agent's details where the money will be sent.
First Name: Tuo
Last Name: Li
Address:10 ding fu jia yuan
City: Beijing
State: Beijing
Zip Code: 100024
Country: China.
please get the necessary details sent to paypal (Money Transfer Control Number) MTCN and senders name and address used to send the $950 so that they can release the whole fund into your account.Please get back to me once done.
Thanks.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 1:06 AM, Silvan Meier wrote:
I will get back to you as soon as i can

On 07/07/2015, at 9:58 AM, Silvan Meier wrote:
Yes i will forward $5,550 into your account with the western union charges and the pick up fee

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:51 AM, seller wrote:
wow this is getting complicated... trust from this end no problem... let me check what i understand... you will forward $4,5K plus $950 to my account and then i deposit $950 into western union account... and wait for further instruction on pickup time ? just confirming ?

On 07/07/2015, at 9:26 AM, Silvan Meier wrote:
I was just about to pay when i had this problem with the pick up, my pick up agent says i will need to pay for the pick up before they can schedule a pick up time, they charged me $950 for pick up and delivery and payments for pick up made through them is made to their corporate international headquarters in China and the payments is made through western union money transfer, i will add the $950 to the money i will send as soon as i have made the payments,i will need you to help me send the money to my pick up agent HQ in China through western union money transfer, this can be done from any post office,there is always western union money transfer section in most post offices or you can get it done online via www.westernunion.com,i would have done it myself but as i am at sea and didn't bring my credit card aboard,.I will appreciate your help here. Thanks.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:03 AM, Silvan Meier wrote:
Ok good,i will proceed with payment shortly,but i will have to contact my pickup agent now regarding pickup arrangement,will keep you posted..All i need is your honesty towards this transaction
Cheers

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 11:59 PM, seller wrote:
In the name of / Credit Union /BSB - /A/c - details

On 06/07/2015, at 11:31 PM, Silvan Meier wrote:
The courier is a company and not a person ..You don,t have to worry about them ..They are honest and they work with time ..Just get back ti me with your account details as soon as you can so i can effect the money through and as soon as funds is cleared then we schedule for the pick up time with my courier agent ..

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:42 AM, seller wrote:
OK Silvan, $4,5k is agreed ? I will forward banking bsb a/c details. Just confirming this and who the courier will be. regards,

On 06/07/2015, at 11:35 AM, Silvan Meier wrote:
Thanks for getting back to me..I'm okay with the price as its within my budget likewise the condition as described on the advert,I work as a marine engineer and currently on a repair of a big construction work offshore which will take some time.We do not have access to phone at the moment due to the current status of the job.. Doing the supervising and checking of each section of the construction. and that's why I contacted you with internet messaging facility.Regarding the payment,i will be paying you through PayPal linked up with my westpac bank account,please get back to me with your paypal details so i can process the payment,you can alternatively send your bsb acct name and number if you have no PayPal acct.I have also contacted my courier who will come for pick up and deliver it to my place in Darwin after the whole fund has been cleared into your account..
Cheers
Follow Ups/Extra Information. Most recent is listed first.
Anonymous   () Added the following extra information on :2015-07-13 22:08:31
 Scammer
  Information
Name:
   Silvan Meier
Email Address:
   silvanmeier2@outlook.com
Probably classic Western Union type scam. It seems it targets Gumtree caravan ads. Beware that he/she might change the name/profession and place.

Scam Email
Silvan Meier 9:49 AM (2 hours ago) 14/07/2015 to me Thanks for getting back to me..I'm okay with the price as its within my budget likewise the condition as described on the advert,I work as a marine engineer and currently on a repair of a big construction work offshore which will take some time.We do not have access to phone at the moment due to the current status of the job.. Doing the supervising and checking of each section of the construction. and that's why I contacted you with internet messaging facility.Regarding the payment,i will be paying you through PayPal linked up with my westpac bank account,please get back to me with your paypal details so i can process the payment,you can alternatively send your bsb acct name and number if you have no PayPal acct.I have also contacted my courier who will come for pick up and deliver it to my place in Darwin after the whole fund has been cleared into your account.. Cheers

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