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Scam ReporterScam Tips Received
Collin
Yeerongpilly, Queensland, Australia
2012-08-25 02:52:16
Auction/eBay Scam
Gumtree
+8 Untitled Auction/eBay Scam on Gumtree, #4708  
 Scammer
  Information
Name:
   Helvis Datford
Email Address:
   helvisdatford@gmail.com
Helvis Datford (false name?)agreed to pay for a motorbike on Gumtree.

\"He\" wanted to include payment for his courier to collect the motorbike.

A payment notification from \"Paypal\" (service@paypal.com.au sub-address of
reviewonlines@mail2Consultant.com) stated:

\"The buyer\'s account has been debited and your account has been scheduled to be credited.
You will receive a confirmation from PayPal after sending out the amount tagged \"PICK UP FEE\".
You are 100% save and protected by PayPal,the total sum of $1,800AUD is scheduled and ready to be credited to your bank account.
All you need do now is get to post office with $950 cash and transfer to the buyers agent and send the details to us for verification so that we can release the pending payment into your account as the money was placed on hold and will only be credited into your account as soon as you email us the western union details (MTCN) of the excess fund meant for the pick up
Get this done so that we can credit your account immediately.\"

\"You are 100% save (sic) and protected\" - yeah, real, pro Paypal, need help with their punctuation
and English.

\"Helvis Datford\" wants to pay $1,050 to move an old $750 motorbike to the next state in Australia
via a U.K. agent & Western Union when he\'s quoted $240, but mean Paypal won\'t release
payment till $950 is sent by the seller to
Alex Page
24 Cat Street Crayford, Dartford
Kent
England
United Kingdom
DA1 3PW.

This alledged fraudster gave I.D. as:
Helvis Datford 24 Kurrajong Crescent Nightcliff Northern Territory 0810, Australia. Lisence N0-1683524.
Follow Ups/Extra Information. Most recent is listed first.
Emma   (Newport, New South Wales, Australia) Added the following extra information on :2014-01-29 20:16:33
 Scammer
  Information
Name:
   Owen Steven
Very much similar to all these other scams
After I told him I didn't want to sell a $9,000.00 car without an inspection after it had been listed for 2 hours:
i would have called or come to see it in person but due to the nature of my work.my courier will come for the collection after the whole fund is cleared into your account and also do the signing of the necessary paper work if at all there is.Get back to me with your bsb,account name and number so that i can proceed with the payment asap as i will like it delivered to my place before my arrival in couple of days and below is my details. Owen Steven 14 Kurrajong Crescent Nightcliff Northern Territory 0810, Australia. Lisence N0- 1683524. thanks.
Yeah, okay "Owen"...

nelly   (Truganina, Victoria, Australia) Added the following extra information on :2013-06-23 09:39:08
 Scammer
  Information
Scam Website:
   gumtree
Steve Paul Brenda 11 Kurrajong Crescent Nightcliff Northern Territory 0810, Australia. Lisence N0-1683524.

Dennis Mason   (Adelaide, South Australia, Australia) Added the following extra information on :2012-10-07 05:28:54
 Scammer
  Information
Name:
   helvis datford
Email Address:
   helvisdatford@gmail.com
This is his reply to me when I sent this.......My mate is selling his boat which you enquired about. He doesn't have internet so you can ring him at home on 83816793 or send your emails here and I'll answer on his behalf Cheers Dennis
his reply
Thanks for mailing back,am ok with the price and the condition.I'm at sea at the moment as petroleum engineer on a rig offshore,i won't be able to come for the inspection due to the nature of my work and i would have called but our calling is restricted.Regarding the payment,i will be paying you through PayPal,pls get back to me with your paypal details so i can process the payment,you can alternatively send your bsb and acct number if you have no paypal acct.I have also contacted my courier who will come for pick up after the whole fund has been cleared into your acct. Await your reply.

Kat   (Brisbane, Queensland, Australia) Added the following extra information on :2012-09-16 05:44:45
 Scammer
  Information
Name:
   Dave Edmond
Email Address:
   daved1516@gmail.com
Very similar experience to others posted. Listed a scooter on gumtree, and received a message requesting contact via email. Several emails later had agreed to price and 'dave' requested my paypal details. I sent him an invoice, then received two weird emails stating: - he was trying to organise a company to pick up and deliver the scooter to him (NSW to NT), but couldn't make the payment directly himself - asking for help to forward the delivery fee onto the company (with HQ in the UK) via Western Union - stating he had made a payment to paypal of the total sale amount plus $950 for delivery fee plus $100 for the Western Union fee, and that the total amount of money would be released by paypal once I had forwarded the delivery fee to the delivery company - for some reason telling me the address he was trying to ship to was 24 Kurrajong Crescent Nightcliff Northern Territory 0810, Australia - asking me to look in spam, etc email folders to find a confirmation email from paypal I did look and found a 'paypal' email, supposedly from service@paypal.com.au (with an R registered trademark symbol after it), but with the actual address of customerhelplink@australiamail.com. Here's the email (I particularly like the emphasis on only contacting paypal through return email, not any other contact methods or addresses. I forwarded it onto spoof@paypal.com to report it):
This email confirms that David Edmond has sent you $3,550.00 AUD
View the details of this Transaction here:
Payment Details
Transaction ID: 9TQ95872YQ3810894P
Item Title Scooter Quantity 1 Price $2,500.00 AUD Subtotal $2,500.00 AUD Pick-up & Delivery: (includes any pick-up delivery fees) $1,050.00 AUD PayPal Charges: (optional) $0.00 AUD Total: $3,550.00 AUD
This is to inform you that you are required to send a sum of $950.00 AUD to the address below via Western Union Money Transfer and get back to us with the relevant information's which you will be provided with after the money has been sent. You are requested to give us the Mtcn# (Money Transfer Control Number) and the Sender's Name and Address used in making the transfer after which we will then credit the total sum of $3,550.00 AUD into your PayPal account.. Below is the Address where the money is to be sent using Western Union Money Transfer.
Agent's info: Gary Roberts, International Logistics Centre, 14, Cowell street,Chattham, London, United Kingdom.
Confirmed
Please note: We wish to inform you that David Edmond has made his intentions known to PayPal that he will like $950.00 AUD to be sent to the recipient's address above via Western Union Money Transfer.
Note:As this transaction was done via our e-mail payments service, any inquiries and necessary information should be sent to us by directly replying to this message, because of the status of this transaction, it has not been passed on to our customer care phone service section,and all inquiries should be directed to this e-mail address as it is the one monitored for your transaction.
This payment has been deducted from the buyer's account and has been " APPROVED" but will not be credited into your account until the MTCN # is sent to us for verification, so as to secure both the buyer and the seller. Below are the relevant information required before your account will be credited.
All you have to do is to reply directly to this email with the MTCN and the Sender's Name and Address used when sending the money through Western Union Money Transfer. You will receive a "Confirmation Email" from PayPal Service informing you that your PayPal account has been credited with $3,550.00 AUD as soon as the above information's has been received and Verified by us.
------------------------------ ------------------------------ ------------------------------ -------
Please, understand that this is a security measure intended to help protect both the Buyer and the Seller.We apologize for the inconvenience that has caused you. Because of the inconvenience this causes we are giving you the next two incoming transfers for free! You will pay no fees for your next two incoming transfers*.
PayPal will be responsible for any loss incurred during the course of this transaction. With more than 147 million accounts worldwide, we are a leading online payment method you can trust!
For further question, please do not hesitate to contact us back on this email.
Thank you for using PayPal. PayPal Team.
Scott Thompson President

J Dening   (Kedron, Queensland, Australia) Added the following extra information on :2012-09-07 06:23:52
 Scammer
  Information
Name:
   Helvis Datford
Email Address:
   helvisdatford@gmail.com
Listed my vehicle on gumtree - within minutes, mobile message: I'm interested in your ad, how much are you willing to sell it.emailme at helvisdatford@gmail.com
THANK YOU to everyone who reported Helvis Datford - I didn't bother replying :)

No Name   (Brighton, South Australia, Australia) Added the following extra information on :2012-09-07 04:45:52
 Scammer
  Information
Name:
   Helvis Datford
Email Address:
   helvisdatford@gmail.com
Advertised our car on Gumtree.com.au and got this email from Helvis Datford on 7 September 2012 -
Thanks for mailing back,am ok with the price and the condition.I'm at sea at the moment as petroleum engineer on a rig offshore,i won't be able to come for the inspection due to the nature of my work and i would have called but our calling is restricted.Regarding the payment,pls get back to me with your paypal details so i can process the payment,you can alternatively send your bsb and acct number if you have no paypal acct.I have also contacted my courier who will come for pick up after the whole fund has been cleared into your acct. Await your reply.

Terry   (Sydney, New South Wales, Australia) Added the following extra information on :2012-09-06 03:39:10
 Scammer
  Information
Name:
   Helvis Datford
Email Address:
   helvisdatford@gmail.com
Selling a vehicle on Gumtree.com.au and received an email from a HELVIS DATFORD wanting to buy the vehicle sight unseen. the below is the corresponding emails received.
Thanks for mailing back,am ok with the price and the condition.I'm at sea at the moment as petroleum engineer on a rig offshore,i won't be able to come for the inspection due to the nature of my work and i would have called but our calling is restricted.Regarding the payment,pls get back to me with your paypal details so i can process the payment,you can alternatively send your bsb and acct number if you have no paypal acct.I have also contacted my courier who will come for pick up after the whole fund has been cleared into your acct. Await your reply. On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 6:41 PM, helvis datford wrote: I was just about to pay when i had this problem with the pick up, my pick up agent says i will need to pay for the pick up before they can schedule a pick up time, they charged me $1500 for pick up and delivery and payments for pick up made through them is made to their corporate international headquarters in the united kingdom and the payments is made through western union money transfer, i will add the $1500 to the money i will send as soon as i have made the payments,i will need you to help me send the money to my pick up agent HQ in the UK through western union money transfer, this can be done from any post office,there is always western union money transfer section in most post offices,i would have done it myself but as i am at sea and didnt bring my credit card aboard,.I will appreciate your help here and thanks for your understanding.
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 6:10 PM, helvis datford wrote: Ok mate,i will let you know when the payment has been made and also contact my pick up agent to get prepared for the collection and arrangement.
On 06/09/2012, at 7:10 AM, helvis datford wrote: I have just completed the payment and i expected paypal to have notified you to this effect.check your mail folders(inbox,spam and junk mail) i sent $16,100 in all.i added $1,600 but $1,500 will be sent to my agent in United Kingdom through western union at post office,the extra $100 is to cover the western union fee. Paypal said they will not release the fund until you email them the western union details for verification,and also to enable my pick up agent to come for pick up and inspection.Here is the agent's details where the money will be sent.
Scott Page 45 Pelly Road E13 0NW London,England.
Please get the necessary details sent to paypal (Money Transfer Control Number)MTCN and senders name and address used to send the $1,500 so that they can release the whole fund into your account.Please get back to me once done.
Thanks.

Scott Matthews   (AU) Added the following extra information on :2012-09-04 03:32:00
 Scammer
  Information
Name:
   Helvis Datford
Email Address:
   helvisdatford@gmail.com
Fax:
   NA
Trys to buy automotive on Gumtree. Says he works offshore on a oil rig and wont have time to view the car. Wants to pay for the car without looking and send a courier around. Asks for Bank account or pay pal details. This is a SCAM previously reported, he is on the prowl again. Seller Beware. When asked for detail to send registration papers his response. "cool and here is my details for the paper work. Helvis Datford 24 Kurrajong Crescent Nightcliff Northern Territory 0810, Australia. Lisence N0-1683524"

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